was unwise to exclude Otegi PNV and Aral sovereigntist pole should be a project that adds 
The opening of the political view to redoubling its bet EA to get to forge a grand bargain between nationalists to return to this sector leadership that give the election results and respond to the strategy that has driven for the first time the nationalism of the main Basque institutions. Their new leader, Pello Urizar, says his party is now stronger, after the split that has meant the birth of Hamaikabat, "because it is" more consistent "and has a speech" unanimous and clear "for the future with which intended to fulfill the dream that has made him a politician: "to contribute, if only slightly, to political normalization and the achievement of peace for this country." EA
facing the opening of this new course after a major setback election and that some militants decide to leave the game and create Hamaikabat. What will be your main objective? What EA is going to be able to see during this term?
The first goal is clear: give the impression of internal cohesion, unfortunately we have not lately and that from the last Congress think it is going to be able to, because the party's internal situation has changed radically. We will have to reilusionar to some people who have been disenchanted by these internal problems. But at the same time, externally, we also believe that the nationalists needed strengthening and creating opportunities for this sector to re-excite, and that is what has been ratified especially in this conference: that, now more than ever, we need to reach agreements between nationalist parties, because the English assignment games, being antagonistic in almost everything, it is knowing concoct strategies. We have to make that connection between nationalist effort, which is what Spain really fears. More than ETA and even harmful effects it can cause.
Right now marks one year since his predecessor announced the launch of work to create this pole sovereigntist. At what point is this project?
We make clear that this effort is necessary to rally nationalist forces. As far as we're concerned, we are in an internal process to define what are the bases and formulas have to give EA participate in this table. We begin the process next week and will close at the end of November. We know that other parties are in the same consideration and, although we have maintained official contacts yet, we are talking to one and all and I guess a little more serious contacts will be intensified now. EA is making an effort to get beyond what is strictly necessary, it is clear that the bet is for use exclusively peaceful means, civil and democratic, we will go with the will leaving hair in the flap and reach agreements. And ask other parties to face this debate with the same determination.
A statement of principles from the world of Batasuna in the report that they guarantee that bet, "would be better for EA? Would it be enough?
Yes But be consistent. Is not the same person asking a world that concludes that violence is not the way to take him to condemn everything that at one point has been part of his life, because in that world there people who have suffered greatly. But what we want to make clear is first, to convince them that violence is not the way, because it is also an argument that gives play to the English state to implement its policy here. We know that many people in this world has taken this position and so, all we want is to be taken seriously once that statement made in Anoeta Arnaldo Otegi and that is not only in words but that bet demonstrate and reflect on the day-to-day political action.
Are not they concerned about the precedent of what happened after the declaration of Anoeta?
Yes, it is an example of a bet at one time seemed firm, which collapsed, and that clearly bothers me personally. But the issues are not simple, not black or white. As EA, ask for a guarantee that world, because in the last peace process were very active at the time of fostering dialogue and open doors to all conflicts that need, which is external support. In fact, the national executive was devoted to a person for two years only to do the job, the truth is that the first was we are dismayed to see that all this had not helped. So let's ask a serious commitment and not just a simple statement to the media. And yes, it's a little scary. But there is no other option.
spoke of demand guarantees. What could ensure that she would not change a new speech like the one he then?
I remember the time of the truce-Garazi Lizarra. Once the truce was declared and Euskal Herritarrok assumed she had to stop, it still gave borroka dekale cases, and the National Board of the world said that those were not the way, there were others. So I say it's not a matter of making a statement one day, but to take a consistent approach to these phenomena and to maintain that line. I do not expect to happen in Ireland, where people who had been connected with that world is over asking people to denounce the perpetrators of recent attacks. But there he made a decision and acted accordingly, and I do hope that happens here.
also commented that EA is willing to be hair in the flap. "Such as?
Look, EA has 23 years leaving hair on the flap. Recently spoke with a person, talking to different nationalist parties, he told me that they are encountering problems of one and other technicalities that both sides wanted to impose ... We clear our bases and expect the same from the other parties. When each of the table top with your requirements, we will see what could be compatible with ours, and if, for example, proposes a compromise option to achieve what we want, we'll see can be articulated. But that will at some stage later.
Is he thinking about what we can raise the PNV?
Well, ... One of the things that are critical, and we do, the pole sovereigntist project is that you want to exclude anyone, and in this sense I think it was unwise Arnaldo Otegi statements in which he said that the PNV could not be in this project and also had plenty Aralar. If so, it will be a center where they will be only because we are clear that only with Batasuna will not go anywhere. The higher the collaboration with other nationalist formations, the easier it to bear fruit. Also I will tell you not admit that someone claims to have the right to veto, saying who can be and who is not, or even disqualifying the project to be set if they are not because society or At least, the nationalist population, is asking make this effort. And more to the situation that exist in the Basque Government and Parliament, which is not real. Born of a artificial base. And people know it.
And all this "would be launched ahead of the 2011 elections?
Man, always distort elections and make the games we look at the navel and fight for those who are with me and not go with you vice versa. But while 2011 is here and it is important, we do this proposal looking to the elections but also in the longer term. And in this sense, I think it's good that now we are in a time when we face two years without elections.
Why spend time relations with the PNV, who until recently shared government and might have been able to be marred by the arrival on the scene of Hamaikabat, favored to reach agreements with jeltzales?
not the best that could have or want, among other things, we're seeing that in the case of Hamaikabat, Alkarbide, or what you call, they are willing to make a halo who have no legitimacy. And this we should understand, because they signed a pact with us Antitransfuguismo and now cling to other laws because they have a clear political interest. And this is what reproach, and they criticized him when playing. So the relationship is elusive, because they know they are doing this commitment is limited to about two years, and they also know that beyond that date will need to have relationships with other parties like us.
Speaking of relationships between parties, how is coexistence Nafarroa Bai, where they work jointly with Aralar and PNV?
There's an example of what can be known that leave hairs on the flap. If on the day to day with the family frictions arise, imagine between different parties. But I believe we can solve, and we're showing in NaBai, which I believe may even be a good example of what can happen in the Basque Autonomous Community.
coalition, "opens its doors to join her other formations that have entered the scene or were so far away?
I do not really know. Alternatiba not know what implementation will have in Navarra, but something we have to do, and as Hamaikabat, themselves in his presentation said they were not planning to run as a party and to participate as NaBai zaleok, or as individuals who work with this coalition.
Can you trust the 'kitchen' that may be having to return to a stage of progress towards political normalization and peace?
kitchen's work has to be among the responsibilities of all parties. The involvement of the media may be hazardous to the solution of any conflict, because what they publish ends up being used by parties to take one or another individual profitability. And this can not be to get a return. In the process of Loyola to actively excluded EA is saying that we could not be there. And do not open mouth, as if there had emerged an agreement, the benefit has been for the whole of Basque society. So of course there has to be cooking, and the media to find out as late as possible about everything.
Are you in favor of "dialogue even with the devil"? Yes
Otherwise, cases like South Africa have not been solved. And today it proves to be a formula that remains valid on the day to day conflicts like the Middle East. Why do not we? If there is dialogue there is no definitive solution. Although law enforcement recipes have their moments, PP and PSE what they want to hide it here the problem has a political basis, and history shows that when it has tried, rather than solving, cover this problem has become entrenched to re-emerge later by that paying this recipe, which lost, society is always Basque.
Maite Aranalde has heels. Neither the controversy after leaving prison or the more predictable surveillance operation that should make close to a member of ETA have prevented circumvention of the judicial and police pressure. Five days after his release after paying a bail € 12,000 imposed by the National Court Judge Ismael Moreno, who could not enact prison for bureaucratic failure of the French Justice, the activist is missing. This has been established the State Security Forces, which last Monday, at the request of Judge Baltasar Garzon, went to his home in Ibarra to stop, a place where there was no sign of Aranalde. Garzón 
